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	<title>Comments on: REAL Results from a Deep-web People Search Engine</title>
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		<title>By: Christi</title>
		<link>http://www.rcirs.com/blog/2007/06/05/real-results-from-a-deep-web-people-search-engine/#comment-1107</link>
		<author>Christi</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that on people search engines provide only certain types of information, such as from social networks. It’s not quite the same as a site like peoplesearch.com or zabasearch.com which actual “find” people. I found info on myself on pipl.com, but it was articles I had written and not necessarily going to help a person “find” me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that on people search engines provide only certain types of information, such as from social networks. It’s not quite the same as a site like peoplesearch.com or zabasearch.com which actual “find” people. I found info on myself on pipl.com, but it was articles I had written and not necessarily going to help a person “find” me.</p>
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		<title>By: Amitai Givertz</title>
		<link>http://www.rcirs.com/blog/2007/06/05/real-results-from-a-deep-web-people-search-engine/#comment-1097</link>
		<author>Amitai Givertz</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.rcirs.com/blog/2007/06/05/real-results-from-a-deep-web-people-search-engine/#comment-1097</guid>
		<description>OK, too much juice to squeeze an orange. I shall reply in a post. But to your observation about Barbie being on my wish list, that then raises the next question:

If we know are being surfaced this way we can then start to manipulate the data being found. For example, knowing what I know now about my Amazon wish list I shall now add some more thoughtful titles like: "Zen and the Art of Motor Cycle Maintenance" and "101 Things Not to Say on an Interview!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, too much juice to squeeze an orange. I shall reply in a post. But to your observation about Barbie being on my wish list, that then raises the next question:</p>
<p>If we know are being surfaced this way we can then start to manipulate the data being found. For example, knowing what I know now about my Amazon wish list I shall now add some more thoughtful titles like: &#8220;Zen and the Art of Motor Cycle Maintenance&#8221; and &#8220;101 Things Not to Say on an Interview!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shally</title>
		<link>http://www.rcirs.com/blog/2007/06/05/real-results-from-a-deep-web-people-search-engine/#comment-1096</link>
		<author>Shally</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.rcirs.com/blog/2007/06/05/real-results-from-a-deep-web-people-search-engine/#comment-1096</guid>
		<description>If you don't want to be found you can request these data sources to remove your information. That is your right and they should comply. 

We as individuals choose to give away our privacy for the sake of convenience. For example, we create wish lists on Amazon so that our friends may conveniently find gifts for us. But that same convenience is quire revealing, like Ami's wish list which includes a book on Barbies :)

Privacy is a matter of choice. How much information your reveal is entirely up to you as an individual. 

That said, if you choose to reveal something private and people in positions of trust abuse that knowledge then they are behaving unethically and perhaps immorally. 

Lets say and individual chooses a particular lifestyle which may be unagreeable to a "moral majority" and that individual chooses to reveal this part of their life in social places like their Flickr profile, their Amazon Wishlist, their MySpace page and so on - all intended to be for personal sharing among friends. 

Now lets say that a person with hiring authority were to become aware of that revealing piece of information regarding a potential applicant. Ethically, in my opinion, the authority has been given a trust much like the trust they are given when we have a private conversation with them during our interview. The authority would be obliged to keep that information to themselves and not share it outside of the medium in which it was found, be that an interview or a social networking website like facebook, etc. 

They are also obligated not to take that information into consideration when makin a hiring decision. In particular they should not take negative action against the individual who has chosen to share that private information in an online social context where its unintended for work purposes. 

So do we need guidelines? Yes, but they should be the same moral and ethical guidelines we would adhere to with our employees. 

Let me explain - say that same individual whas not an applicant but rather an employee. Would that hiring decision maker - now the individuals manager - be able to take any action against an individual based on the information about their lifestyle? No. If they did, and it could be proven tha they did, their judgement could land them in hot water. 

So I propose the standard should be to treat peoples private information - yes even if its online - as private, and to treat a candidate's privacy as we would an employees. Then I feel we should all be safe from an ethics dilemma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t want to be found you can request these data sources to remove your information. That is your right and they should comply. </p>
<p>We as individuals choose to give away our privacy for the sake of convenience. For example, we create wish lists on Amazon so that our friends may conveniently find gifts for us. But that same convenience is quire revealing, like Ami&#8217;s wish list which includes a book on Barbies <img src='http://www.rcirs.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Privacy is a matter of choice. How much information your reveal is entirely up to you as an individual. </p>
<p>That said, if you choose to reveal something private and people in positions of trust abuse that knowledge then they are behaving unethically and perhaps immorally. </p>
<p>Lets say and individual chooses a particular lifestyle which may be unagreeable to a &#8220;moral majority&#8221; and that individual chooses to reveal this part of their life in social places like their Flickr profile, their Amazon Wishlist, their MySpace page and so on - all intended to be for personal sharing among friends. </p>
<p>Now lets say that a person with hiring authority were to become aware of that revealing piece of information regarding a potential applicant. Ethically, in my opinion, the authority has been given a trust much like the trust they are given when we have a private conversation with them during our interview. The authority would be obliged to keep that information to themselves and not share it outside of the medium in which it was found, be that an interview or a social networking website like facebook, etc. </p>
<p>They are also obligated not to take that information into consideration when makin a hiring decision. In particular they should not take negative action against the individual who has chosen to share that private information in an online social context where its unintended for work purposes. </p>
<p>So do we need guidelines? Yes, but they should be the same moral and ethical guidelines we would adhere to with our employees. </p>
<p>Let me explain - say that same individual whas not an applicant but rather an employee. Would that hiring decision maker - now the individuals manager - be able to take any action against an individual based on the information about their lifestyle? No. If they did, and it could be proven tha they did, their judgement could land them in hot water. </p>
<p>So I propose the standard should be to treat peoples private information - yes even if its online - as private, and to treat a candidate&#8217;s privacy as we would an employees. Then I feel we should all be safe from an ethics dilemma.</p>
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		<title>By: Amitai Givertz</title>
		<link>http://www.rcirs.com/blog/2007/06/05/real-results-from-a-deep-web-people-search-engine/#comment-1095</link>
		<author>Amitai Givertz</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.rcirs.com/blog/2007/06/05/real-results-from-a-deep-web-people-search-engine/#comment-1095</guid>
		<description>Shally, this is an amazing tool! As usual, brilliant post.

Naturally, I plugged my name in to give it a whirl. I guess being freaked out by what is actually public domain and freely available - albeit deeply buried -- can be offset by results like this listed under &lt;strong&gt;News Articles&lt;/strong&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.interbiznet.com/ern/archives/070604.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Download Authoria's complimentary white paper&lt;/a&gt;
Interbiznet Bugler (press release), CA - 19 hours ago
(June 04, 2007) Amitai Givertz is the cause of some of the most interesting thinking in today's Recruiting Industry. While much of the ongoing dialog is ... &lt;/blockquote&gt;
But "ooh, I'm famous" -- the stuff about us we want to push -- aside, doesn't "unfettered" to access to this type of information -- public domain or not -- also raise the questions of trust and professionalism? How should recruiters be applying this data and how to you define "ethical" use? What is the potential for abuse of tools like pipl? What is the potential downside for an employer and should they be making sure guidelines are in place for their recruiters to follow?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shally, this is an amazing tool! As usual, brilliant post.</p>
<p>Naturally, I plugged my name in to give it a whirl. I guess being freaked out by what is actually public domain and freely available - albeit deeply buried &#8212; can be offset by results like this listed under <strong>News Articles</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.interbiznet.com/ern/archives/070604.html" rel="nofollow">Download Authoria&#8217;s complimentary white paper</a><br />
Interbiznet Bugler (press release), CA - 19 hours ago<br />
(June 04, 2007) Amitai Givertz is the cause of some of the most interesting thinking in today&#8217;s Recruiting Industry. While much of the ongoing dialog is &#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>But &#8220;ooh, I&#8217;m famous&#8221; &#8212; the stuff about us we want to push &#8212; aside, doesn&#8217;t &#8220;unfettered&#8221; to access to this type of information &#8212; public domain or not &#8212; also raise the questions of trust and professionalism? How should recruiters be applying this data and how to you define &#8220;ethical&#8221; use? What is the potential for abuse of tools like pipl? What is the potential downside for an employer and should they be making sure guidelines are in place for their recruiters to follow?</p>
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